"Young" Herman Miller
---The following is taken from the "New York
Dispatch" Newspaper-Sept 12,1961. - Title of article is "Herman
Miller Fought Greb- Was Dempsey Sparring Mate"
A well-known former York middleweight boxer,
who fought the best of them in the early part of the century before retiring
in 1923, dropped into the Dispatch office for a visit recently to reminisce
about old times.
He is Samuel (Herman) Miller, now 65, who numbers
among his outstanding fistic achievements the fact that he was a sparring
partner for Jack Dempsey while the great ex-heavyweight king was training
for his title bouts with Jess Willard in Toledo in 1919 and with Georges
Carpentier in Jesey City in 1921.
Miller, still a very alert gent, vividly recalls
most of his many fights, which included a five round test with the great
Harry Greb in Johnstown in 1917. Greb kayoed Miller in that one in five
One of Miller's most notable victories came
against the renowned Jack Blackburn, who later went on to become the manager
of Joe Louis. By beating Blackburn, Miller gained some measure of revenge
because Blackburn had years previously knocked out one Herman Miller, young
"In fact," Miller recalls with proud
recollection, "I am probably the only guy in the world who beat three
fighters who licked my father. I beat Terry Martin in Philadelphia and Kid
Whitman in Baltimore..."
Born in Baltimore, Miller matriculated to York
around 1915 and was well-known as a brawler.
Some of the top-notchers Miller boxed in addition
to those mentioned included York's Johnny Gill, Jeff Smith and Panama Joe
His grandfather, Sam Miller, was also a boxer
and later a manager and his greatest claim to fame was that he was the manager
of the illustrious Philadelphia Jack O'brien, one of the greatest light-heavyweight
champions of all-time.
A fourth generation Miller, young Herman's son,
William, finally broke the string of boxers. The youngest Miller played
football for F. and M. several seasons back and also had a tryout with the
Miller recalls his first three fights in the
York area were with Charley Collins of Columbia. He lived in the city from
1915 until about 1951 and retired from boxing in 1923.
Miller moved to Baltimore when he left York
and was a member of the Maryland State Atheltic Commision for six years.
He was also a well-known referee following his retirement from the squared
---The following is taken from the "New Era"
Lancaster,PA. Newspaper-Oct 22,1964. - Title of article is "Son
Got Revenge For His Father"
Dad failed, son didn't....Ever hear of a father
losing a couple bouts in the ring and then years later have the son gain
revenge by beating the same two men who beat his dad?
Sounds unusual and so far as is known it happened
only once in the annals of professional boxing.
It's enough to start the fistic buffs buzzing
, but to make it doubly interesting locally the son who gained this measure
of revenge for his father will be here in a month or so.
Herman Miller, who now resides in Baltimore,
was one of the great middleweights of his day, and as such it was only natural
that he should be invited to be a guest at the annual Oldtime Boxers banquet,
slated for the Arcadia on November 11.
In accepting the invitation and in a conversation
with Johnny Hauck, of the Oldtimers, Herman told his unusual story.
---HE FOUGHT THE GREATS OF HIS DAY---
First of all, it may be better to present Herman's
qualifications. As a middleweight fighter back in the teens, Miller fought
such great boxers as Jeff Smith, Jack McCarron, Panama Joe Gans, Jackie
Clark, KO Brennan, Harry Greb, KO Baker, Jack Blackburn and the well known
locals such as Leo Houck, Johnny Gill and Charlie Collins.
His fight with Blackburn, who later became famous
for his training duties with the great Joe Louis, is one that old timers
in and around Philadelphia still recall as one of the greatest. They slugged
it out in Philly's Cambria AC on the night of Dec. 7, 1917 and traded so
many punches that at the finish the judges decided it was a draw.
In those days you didn't hold a fighter such
as Jack Blackburn to a draw unless you knew how to box and punch, and so
this fight, alone, qualifies Mr. Millerin the upper echelon of fistiana.
---WATCHED AS HIS DAD LOST 2 FIGHTS---
But on to his story. Herman was just 12 years old when his father
fought Kid Whetman and took a beating. Naturally, it had an effect on the
youngster, who stood in his dad's corner. Still later the elder Miller fell
victim in one Terry Martin.
This, it appears, was just too much for the youngster to take.
"Don't worry, Dad," he told his father after the second
fight, "I'll beat 'em both for you when i grow up."
Chances are his father thought this was just one way a youngster of
12 chose to console him.
But Herman never forgot and, strangly enough, when he took up the
professional side of the sport, he got his chances, and made good on both
counts by beating the two men who had beaten his father years before.
---HE'LL BE HERE FOR OLDTIMERS DINNER---
According to Hauck, whose memories of fights and whose library on
bouts is inexhaustable, it was the first and only time it ever happened.
"I checked the records," Johnny related, "and they
bear out Herman's great feat."
He'll be in our town on the night of November 11 so if you're at the
Oldtimers banquet...(and you can be for the price of a ticket)...you'll
get a chance to hear Herman tell about it in person.
Admiitedly, it's quite an unusual story.
Tale Of The Tape
Jan 15 1915 Willie KO Brown Maryl. KO'd by 4
Apr 4 1915 Arthur (Dummy) Classen unknown Draw
Sep 14 1915 Leo Houck Pennsl. KO 6
Jan 1 1916 Jackie Clark unknown ND 10
Mar 18 1916 Al Grayber Pitts. ND 6
Apr 7 1916 Leo Houck Penns. L 6
May 5 1916 Willie KO Brennan Buffalo KO'd by 5
Jun 22 1916 Leo Houck Virgini L 10
Nov ? 1916 Jeff Smith Balti. KO'd by 3
Mar 23 1917 Harry Greb Penns. KO'd by 5
Sep 18 1917 Leo Houck Penns. L 6
Nov 23 1917 Billy Kramer Penns. Loss (rounds unknown)
Dec 7 1917 Jack Blackburn Penns. ND 6
Feb 11 1918 Johnny Gill Maryl. Draw
Feb 11 1918 Johnny Gill Balti. Draw
Oct 24 1921 Panama Joe Gans Penns. L 10
Feb 14 1922 Jack McCarron Penns. ND 10 (loss) (In a "very close" bout, McCarron "had but a shade" over Miller. (Gettysburg Times)
May 1 1922 Leo Houck Penns. L 8
May 29 1922 Ad Stone Penns. KO'd by 4
Jun 8 1922 Fay Keiser Conn. L 12
Nov 11 1922 Jeff Smith Maryl. KO'd by 3
unknown 19?? Harry KO Baker unknown unknown
unknown 19?? Charlie Collins unknown unknown
unknown 19?? Kid Whetman unknown Win
unknown 19?? Terry Martin unknown Win
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- Pictured above is Herman Miller around 1930 refereeing a
Bantamweight Championship fight between Little Jeff and
Benny Swartz held at the Royalty Theatre in Baltimore.